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Cle。Whatdoyoumean?
Ath。Letusselectofthetenmotionstheonewhichmindchieflyresembles;thisIwillbringtoyourrecollection,andwillthenmaketheansweronbehalfofusall。
Cle。Thatwillbeexcellent。
Ath。Youwillsurelyrememberoursayingthatallthingswereeitheratrestorinmotion?
Cle。Ido。
Ath。Andthatofthingsinmotionsomeweremovinginoneplace,andothersinmorethanone?
Cle。Yes。
Ath。Ofthesetwokindsofmotion,thatwhichmovesinoneplacemustmoveaboutacentrelikeglobesmadeinalathe,andismostentirelyakinandsimilartothecircularmovementofmind。
Cle。Whatdoyoumean?
Ath。Insayingthatbothmindandthemotionwhichisinoneplacemoveinthesameandlikemanner,inandaboutthesame,andinrelationtothesame,andaccordingtooneproportionandorder,andarelikethemotionofaglobe,weinventedafairimage,whichdoesnodiscredittoouringenuity。
Cle。Itdoesusgreatcredit。
Ath。Andthemotionoftheothersortwhichisnotafterthesamemanner,norinthesame,noraboutthesame,norinrelationtothesame,norinoneplace,norinorder,noraccordingtoanyruleorproportion,maybesaidtobeakintosenselessnessandfolly?
Cle。Thatismosttrue。
Ath。Then,afterwhathasbeensaid,thereisnodifficultyindistinctlystating,thatsincesoulcarriesallthingsround,eitherthebestsoulorthecontrarymustofnecessitycarryroundandorderandarrangetherevolutionoftheheaven。
Cle。Andjudgingfromwhathasbeensaid,Stranger,therewouldbeimpietyinassertingthatanybutthemostperfectsoulorsoulscarriesroundtheheavens。
Ath。Youhaveunderstoodmymeaningrightwell,Cleinias,andnowletmeaskyouanotherquestion。
Cle。Whatareyougoingtoask?
Ath。Ifthesoulcarriesroundthesunandmoon,andtheotherstars,doesshenotcarryroundeachindividualofthem?
Cle。Certainly。
Ath。Thenofoneofthemletusspeak,andthesameargumentwillapplytoall。
Cle。Whichwillyoutake?
Ath。Everyoneseesthebodyofthesun,butnooneseeshissoul,northesoulofanyotherbodylivingordead;andyetthereisgreatreasontobelievethatthisnature,unperceivedbyanyofoursenses,iscircumfusedaroundthemall,butisperceivedbymind;
andthereforebymindandreflectiononlyletusapprehendthefollowingpoint。
Cle。Whatisthat?
Ath。Ifthesoulcarriesroundthesun,weshallnotbefarwronginsupposingoneofthreealternatives。
Cle。Whatarethey?
Ath。Eitherthesoulwhichmovesthesunthiswayandthat,resideswithinthecircularandvisiblebody,likethesoulwhichcarriesusabouteveryway;orthesoulprovidesherselfwithanexternalbodyoffireorair,assomeaffirm,andviolentlypropelsbodybybody;orthirdly,sheiswithoutsuchabody,butguidesthesunbysomeextraordinaryandwonderfulpower。
Cle。Yes,certainly;thesoulcanonlyorderallthingsinoneofthesethreeways。
Ath。Andthissoulofthesun,whichisthereforebetterthanthesun,whethertakingthesunaboutinachariottogivelighttomen,oractingfromwithoutorinwhateverway,oughtbyeverymantobedeemedaGod。
Cle。Yes,byeverymanwhohastheleastparticleofsense。
Ath。Andofthestarstoo,ando